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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:42:00 -
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General Nusense wrote:Yup, thats right. If any of you have put a Siphon on a tower belonging to CFC/PL/N3 or any other Sov holding alliance your Siphon was detected through the API end point. Something that CCP said " wouldnt be possible". Since all the major nullsec sov holding alliances knew about this and used it, they should all be fined all the moon goo they have mined since the siphon units were released in game. They knew about this and contiuned to use it without notifying CCP. Which would be an Exploit. Source. This may have been covered, but I'm not reading this whole thread, but...
Why only sov holding alliances? Other people also have moons and could in theory use the assets list to detect, so it seems a bit biased to come on the forum crying about sov holding alliances, who may not have even know that this was the case.
From my own point of view, I certainly haven't heard about siphon death squads. I tend to have a quick gander for siphons when I'm in a blue system, but I'm yet to find one. I figured people just didn't use them because making a few million by flying into an active POS and hauling a whole bunch of goo 30 hostile jumps was top of the line ********.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.08.14 16:56:00 -
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embrel wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:embrel wrote:
I'm confident that the thing was intended to have a use, which it doesn't in its current form.
Are you saying that the siphon has no use in it's current form, or did I miss something? I'm glad that my english is good enough that the point I was trying to make came across. Maybe that it doesn't have 0 use, but for sure it's not what was sold. I don't think the ability to see it on API really affects it that greatly though, does it. Be realistic here, how many people actually use siphons? Basically noobs that don't realise that any other task in the game would net them more isk and that the amount of effort involved is so laughable that we hope people use them against us, since the only way to be more useless at impacting us would be to go full Gevlon and start crying on a blog about us every day.
Lets face it, siphon units were useless from the moment they were thought up. Nothing in this thread changes that.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:03:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:People dont use siphons for the isk. They use it for the effect. On top of this problem people are running garbage interactions on the front end to make siphons useless anyhow.
Siphons need to be looked at again to make more of a burden for the large alliances. What effect?
I mean seriously, if they make a couple of million per hour, the effect is that the alliance loses a couple of million per hour IF they don't find and loot it. You'd be better off nuking ratters.
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Lucas Kell
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:33:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Most people dont do it for the isk I know that may be hard to believe, but majority do it to harass the pos owner/alliance/corp. Some one has to look for and remove the siphon which can provide content.
Would be nice to break even or be able to remove the siphon once placed.
For me it was NEVER about making isk. Right, but why is it harassing? Why would the owner even remotely care? Their losses from it are absolutely minimal even if you do collect the product, which won't always be the case. The only person affected by it is the guy that has to loot and blap it when he goes to pick up the goo, so you cost a guy 2 minutes of his time once in a blue moon. You don't really have to "look for" the siphon, it'll just be there when you go to collect goo.
Seems pretty pointless. There are hundreds of better and more effective ways to harass the owners.
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